My long-standing question has always been: Why does God want us to suffer? What's with the amount of violence that surrounds Biblical stories and the stories of human nature?
Don't get me wrong! The entire of the Catholic/Christian belief system is not all doom-and-gloom, you're-gonna-die-and-burn-in-HELL. But for all the talk of love and compassion that their followers eschew, there sure is a lot of violence surrounding two pretty poignant parts of this faith that set up a pretty stark future for Christian-associated violence: The crucifixion of Jesus Christ and the inherent or learned evil tendencies of our souls.
Crucifixion of Jesus Christ
I have always wondered what kind of parent would demand such a sacrifice from their own child, especially God and his only Earth-bound living Son and for the purpose of providing salvation for His followers at the cost of someone's life. This leads to really uncomfortable follow-up questions, like if this sets precedent for parents to kill their own children in the name of God. (And in some cases, yes, this has happened. While I realize these people were not all mentally there, I'm so sad that there are so many appropriate links for this subject.)
The fact that Jesus was sacrificed, whether by divine hand or not, was not at all a surprise: Considered a heretic in his day, there were a lot of people (righteously or otherwise) genuinely pissed at the idea of some hippie coming in and saying, among other things, that you didn't need temple or church to pray to God, you just needed to talk to Him yourself, and that he was indeed the Son of God. To usurp that kind of Roman power and to make what anyone would imagine were wild claims pretty much deigns you nothing more than someone who must be eliminated to keep their idea of peace.
In fact, Jesus foretells his death and resurrection (perhaps he saw the writing on the wall?) in Mark 9:30-37, telling his followers that his death and resurrection were to come. While it makes perfect sense that Jesus could tell something was coming (I mean, most opponents of the Romans often ended up dead), the mention of his resurrection and how detailed he was in how his death would play out suggests that this wasn't just the work of humans, but of a higher power with a bigger purpose than we could imagine.
That is to say, it was divine, that God set out to do this long before His own Son was born.
Creepy, innit? To think that a parent, even a divine one, would consider how his death would save so many of us, and to base an entire faith off this death.
You would think that, considering this is God we're talking about, there would be a more peaceful solution than offering a blood sacrifice, especially His own Son. That there would be a better way than to give his Son's life to the hands of a powerful culture hellbent on taking him out, and especially to get the wheel turning. Especially since this means to an end necessitates His Son experiencing some of the most graphic, almost Machiavellian displays of the human race's ability to destroy.
Despite this display, the New Testament repeatedly says something that continues to elude me to this day: That Jesus' crucifixion was actually a way by which God could save humanity, that the death of one could save so many others. It gives reason for something as gruesome as death, especially by such a measure.
It almost makes me wonder if this kind of violence really did normalize and even encourage violence as a means to peace. Not that this was at all a new concept. But no faith has been able to permeate modern culture the way Christianity has, and it's important to acknowledge that there has been an uptick in religious violence since the dawn of Christianity.
Does God like violence? Does He have no issue with using divine violence as a way to counter human violence? If neither of these, why does it feel like He resorts to or is complacent with the idea, especially when it comes to His own Son? Why not lay down the arms and fight violence with peace instead?
There is one interesting thing that comes out of Jesus' crucifixion: The fact that, in light of the foreshadowing that he will be killed at the hands of the powerful, he encourages his follows to let go of their own desires for power and to welcome those who are vulnerable and overlooked, to be the peacemakers after his ultimate sacrifice.
Now if only THAT was the focus rather than on his death, we may be living in a much different world today.
Hell (and "Hellbound?")
(Based off a new documentary that I hope to catch soon: Hellbound?)
Does hell exist? If so, who ends up there, and why? Featuring an eclectic group of authors, theologians, pastors, social commentators and musicians, “Hellbound?” is a provocative, feature-length documentary that will ensure you never look at hell the same way again!
Despite this ultimate sacrifice given by Jesus, meant as a way to save us from eternal damnation, there sure is a hell (ha!) of a lot of talk about gnashing of teeth and licking of flames surrounding our inherent natures or by predestination. After all, I thought most of this was mitigated when Jesus died for our sins, right?
Apparently not, according to some pastors. Mark Driscoll, for instance, says that "God created the world and people chose to rebel against him. And God came and died to save some of them from the death they deserve."
... doesn't really sound all that redemptive to me.
The idea of hell has always bothered me, that there could be a place with no hope and nothing but darkness and eternal torture for the rest of your afterlife. Why would a God, who so loves His children and creates us in His image, be okay with allowing this kind of torment for the rest of... well, forever?
Brian McLaren probably said it best: "If I believe that a small percentage of human beings were created to enjoy bliss eternally and another group of beings were created to experience eternal conscious torment, then I look at human beings differently than if I say, `Every human being was made in the image of God. Every human being is beloved by God. God is at work to save every human being.'"
Yup, two starkly different ways of looking at the world. One sees people as inherently good or inherently evil, and that they are destined to an afterlife regardless of their individual lives. The other says that all are special, all are loved, and all are destined to enjoy the afterlife.
I have an issue with these ideas on afterlife in general, the idea of hell and heaven as a way to divide us after we're dead and gone. I will full admit that I have no idea what happens, and live my life according to what is right, not based on fear of where I'll end up afterward.
But hell is something we generally don't escape in modern times. Whether it's an idea or part of our vernacular (how many times have you said, "Go to hell!" "What the hell?" "Hell no/yes!"), it's all around us, and has almost become normalized in today's culture.
Much like crucifixion, hell serves as yet another tool used by Christian faiths to control its followers, to market for new adherents, to give promise of something better after -- ahem -- "hell on Earth". And if God can control where we end up -- or if the Devil snatches us up and no way in... ah, hell is anyone going to come to our aid -- then there appears more cause for violence in society.
Having a belief in hell, at least in my experience, can fundamentally change the way people look at this world and how they end up treating themselves and their brethren, especially if one believes in predestination. There's some kind of horror that accompanies the thought that many that we love and care about suffer eternal torment, and the nonchalant way in which some Christians accept the idea that a great majority of us are, indeed, going there in a handbasket.
For some, the belief in hell should push us into being moral people, that the existence of a place where bad people go for all eternity might get us to wise up and get our shit together. But if one's motivation is fear, and that fear is perpetuated either by the idea that God can send us there, God doesn't give a crap if we end up there, God treats those of different faiths or different races or different personalities with so much disdain that we're headed there simply because we are, or God has already set that path for us before we were born, what kind of belief does that give us about a God who is all-loving?
And even worse, to deny the existence of hell is, in some people's eyes, to deny the Christian faith itself. So it really is a no-win situation.
Whether hell is fire or hell is nothing; whether we are to end up there based on our actions or by predestination, our very definitions of self; whether we are judged or we are saved... to believe in hell is, at its very core, to believe that some just aren't as good as others. And if that's the case, then why bother finding ways in which we can find the worth, good, and faith in others?
The big question to me is, "if God sacrificed his only son to bring peace to humanity, why are so many of us suffering?" Because - as you pointed out - if anything the violence is getting worse, and quite often is done in the name of religeon. I don't know where we'll end up when we die, but if it's anything like Earth, I'm not sure I want to go!
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ReplyDeleteFor me - I have always thought the Bible (which was written by man) was nothing more than a book of fables for mankind to abide by. It has been interpreted and dissected by so many for so long that whatever its initial intent - so much has been lost in translation. So it's anybody's guess of it's true meanings and intent. Despite all of that - there IS still an awful lot of violence in it - and all in the name of God.
My biggest beef has been ---- when a so-called Loving God expects a display of one's love toward him to be demonstrated through an act of violence, he is NOT, in my book, a "loving" God.
Yet, people believe what they will - for whatever reasons they have. And that's OK. Whatever works for them. It's all good. But the whole violence in the the name of God has never made sense to me - and never will. "Christians" play their Christian Card when it's convenient and I say they're hypocrites when they do.
Excellent post. I have often had many of the same thoughts. Consideration of the conflict between God as a loving parent and the existance of Hell was the main motivation for my conversion to Unitarian Universalism.
ReplyDeleteI remember growing up in Baptist church when we were raising money to send missionaries to Bangladesh and being told that everyone in Bangladesh was going to hell because they weren't Christian. It just seemed impossibly wrong to me. And, honestly, people who can just accept such concepts unquestioningly scare me.
I used to be a die-hard Catholic woman when I was in high school. But when I met my fiance, that changed A LOT. Because he brought up a very good question: If God loves everyone and Jesus came down to save us from "Hell" then why would He allow members of and supporters of GLBT die? The reason why this struck home to me so hard? My sister is happily living with her girlfriend and their children. My sister took better care of me and loved me more than my own mother did (And still does).
ReplyDeleteTo be honest, I don't believe in hell either. You're correct, it IS a control method to hold faith members in line. Why would they need to? Because sometimes people can't always be peaceful. Sometimes we get a little big-headed and think we know it all. Dr. Zimbardo wrote a book on Man's inherit evil after his Stanford Prison Experiment exemplifying that. This is why, I think, the leaders of some Christian religions hold fast to Hell (though to not such a huge extent), so they can keep their members in line.
As for Jesus's Crucifixion... I will once again use Zimbardo as an example of why God sent his Son to Earth to die for us: God knows humans. He gave us Free Will. But when you have communities STONING people for not following the Commandments instead of trying to help them first, He looked at the world and went: "Umm... That's not right." But when met with opposition what do mediocre minds do? They use violence. The people loved Jesus's teachings because the made sense and it made them think. He wasn't supposed to come down with all the answers because not all answers are right for everyone. He went down loving everyone, even those who nailed him to the cross and ridiculed his good nature.
Though it's sad... Christians today don't understand that. Because rather than questioning everything they follow the herd like lambs to the slaughter. I commend people like you, here in this forum, that question and find other routes that let you be yourself and love everyone with an open mind and heart. You exemplify what I believe Jesus meant for us to become. And it's my hope that one day Christians will open their eyes twice to see the world for how it needs to be.
It's really hard to believe the things that seem conflict in the real world but God's word has no mistakes and always true. God is a loving God and He doesn't want us to be punished because of our sins but instead He invites that all should come to repentance. He is also a just God that hates Sins people has always committed. He has to punish sin showing us His righteousness. Man can't do something to escape from this punishment because of our sinful nature. Whatever good we do or we will do they are all filthy rugs before God that's why God sent His only begotten Son to die for us. And this is the sacrificial love that God wants us to accept by faith hard to understand by our mind but being humble before God He will give us grace to accept all thing for His glory. Jesus really died for us and His death is our salvation from eternity in hell. Hell is a real place prepared for Satan and his followers. Satan is trying to bring all sinners with him in this eternal punishment but people who believe in God's work of redemption through Jesus Christ and repented of their sins will no longer be bound in Hell for eternity. By faith repentant sinners should live. Heaven and Hell are real place both in extreme contast of eternal joy and eternal suffering. No religion can save people from hell only the One who died at the cross for our redemption and that He is Jesus Christ the son of God.
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Someone mentioned free will? Do you think God caused the Pharasees to perform like puppets and the Romans too? At every stage after the teachings of Christ the Humans had a choice to abstain from violence just as we do today. If we follow Jesus's teachings and treat every life as sacred then we would abstain from violence and look after the poor and vulnerable and treat all people equally. God is not Human, he is not a great wizard pulling strings. He suffers and rejoices as every parent when His children hurt or love each other but to think of God in terms of a Human parent is a great misgiving. Also, a great many people quote the Bible out of context. Hell or Hades or Shoe is was often referred to as fire as fire is the ultimate destruction. Nothing can be reassembled after fire so for Hell read End. Not an endless torture but end. The Bible needs to be read with the culture and language of the time in mind and the whole of the Bible read to understand that in some parts eg Paul he is referring to a cultural group such as the Corinthians. The gift of Tongues could also have meant adjusting language so the receiver is able to understand. Just as I have been at pains to do in this reply. Go in Peace and Love with Jesus.
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