No real loss with the defriending, but it just confuses me why some, when faced with facts, deflect or personally attack or plain-out ignore said facts.
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ReplyDeleteThe "playground attitude" never fails to amaze me with some individuals. They don't like what they see/hear so...they pick-up their sand pail and leave. For anyone to get all judgmental and then just erase a Facebook acquaintance is well....very sophomoric in many ways. Speaks volumes about that person and how they handle truly important situations in life.
If you are going to blast me on your blog at least show the end of the conversation. For the record, I take offense to the suggestion that I removed you because I don't like your "rational arguments, facts, and figures". I removed you because I'm sick and tired of being persecuted , debating and arguing over something we will never agree on. You can keep pointing at the scary looking firearms and regurgitating left statistics about gun deaths instead of looking at the bigger picture, and I can keep pointing at the UK having the highest violent crime rate in the EU (over 2000 victims per 100k vs 386 per 100K in the US ), but no good can come of it. And just for the record, if the bulk of the media was talking about banning something you cared about deeply because of the actions of a mental case, and you were reading articles condoning the murder of people for having similar beliefs as you, you might be a little sensitive to someone starting an argument up with you on the subject. You are entitled to your beliefs, please excuse me for not agreeing with or wanting to hear about your desire to strip me of a liberty I consider sacred.
ReplyDeleteWell thank you! I never got to read any responses because, by the time I had next visited Facebook, you had already removed me and I wasn't able to read any responses. But I'll read them and will respond once I get back from rehearsal!
ReplyDeleteI took few minutes to watch the video in question that sparked the facebook debate, and it did raise san interesting point. What struck me was when the radio host referred to a gun as a "the appropriate tool needed to repel an invader or invaders into their house." Now, I'm Canadian. I live in the province Alberta, which for those who are unfamilliar with Canadain geography and stereotypes, is the home of just about all Canadian cowboys and "wild west" culture. We have lots of ranchers, lots of farmland, and lots of people who love their guns. Guns can be used to repel home invasions, it's true. But is it the most appropriate tool? Some of my neighbours would argue "yes". But, assuming responsible gun-owners abide by our gun control regulations, a gun would not be the most accessible tool in the moment. If I were personally in that situation a gun would not be the first thing I would reach for - I would go for the bear spray. Seriously. Granted, not the best tool in a confined space like a closet, but I would put myself in an appropriate space to use it, and I would spray that invader like a charging grizzly.
ReplyDeleteMy point is, (and sorry for hi-jacking your comments, Stephanie) is that there are other tools that are well suited for the job that do not have the same risks as guns. You need to pick the best tool for the job - and if there is a less lethal tool that will still achieve the same thing (repelling an invader), than that is the tool to pick.
I just wanted to drop a note, that I've been checking out your blog :) Congrats on your pregnancy.
ReplyDeleteI have to say - I agree with most if not all your points. I am not comfortable around guns - at all - I was shot at by an alcoholic boyfriend of my mom's when I was 16 and was almost killed. (inches from my head, it hit a tree I was next to) ... so personally, I just can't have them in my home. My son also attended a school where there was a school shooting last Spring. I have nothing against people who own A gun ... for those in the occupations who need them........ hunters have the rights ... but I'm just personally not okay with having any in my home.
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ReplyDeleteI completely agree. Granted, I'm one that's always up for spirited debate, especially from someone whose views are completely different from mine and can challenge me (I'm thinking of one person in particular, actually), but it's not anything to defriend someone over. Unless, as you said, that person is sophomoric.
Ah well. Moving on! :)
Okay, I'll bite.
ReplyDeleteI'm actually not going to touch the gun debate, as you're right, we're on two completely different sides of the fence when it comes to that. I could sit here and debate all day as to why pretty much every one of your points are fallacious, but considering this, I'll spare the time and space.
I WILL say this, though: Don't expect not to see some sort of public mockery for something as childish as defriending someone shortly after stating your side, expecting them to read within those few minutes I'm sure it took to hit "unfriend" (or whatever it's called on Facebook -- I honestly don't remove people often enough to know), then get all up in arms (pun intended) when said person doesn't and can't read your retort.
I saved that screenshot you sent, and if anyone is so interested, I can post it again, no problem. The way you handled this situation, Bryan, was -- and the way I've seen many Tea Party/right wingers/Republicans handle debate is -- impetuous at best.
Honestly, I don't care if you defriended me. It's no skin off my nose, literal or otherwise. But at least act like a decent human being -- a "man", if you so will -- and at least own up to your actions and your adolescent behavior. Or I can continue to make such a mockery. :)
Bear spray! Maybe that's a Canadian thing, as I've never heard of it, but I'd be carrying bear spray around with me all the time, if only to say that I am. ;)
ReplyDeleteYou're right, though. The most effective tool ISN'T a gun, especially if those guns are well-regulated. There are other, more effective tools that can be used and that can be deemed safe in a household. Another friend pointed out that a good kick to the groin is also just as effective, as are cast-iron pans and other techniques. It doesn't HAVE to be a gun.
We're just in a gun-happy society (as Canada is, I've heard, though not quite as much as America is), and if that's the reality we have to deal with, then we should also deal with regulating those guns!
Thanks for your comment, Summer. And by all means, hijack! You added a very interesting and thoughtful twist to this discussion. :)
Thanks, hon! :)
ReplyDeleteMy GOD. I'm so glad that bullet missed you!! I can totally understand your reasoning for not having guns in your house, and while I don't have any similar stories to share (I've actually never been around, much less shot, a gun of any sort), I'm strongly against them in my home as well. The ability for people, especially children, to have access to them so readily scares the living daylights out of me. I certainly don't trust many of these people on the road; why would I trust them with something inherently dangerous and meant only to maim or kill?
It's less of a "Canadian" Thing, than a "I live in a National Park where mama bears have been seen strolling down the main street of town" thing. Bear spray is pretty common where I live because alot of people (myself included) enjoy hiking in the backcountry, and you never know what you are going to encounter. It's the thing to have and hope you'll never need.
ReplyDeleteCanada can be pretty gun-happy too, and there's been quite a bit of backlash over certain gun control motions from the government (Google Canada Long Gun Registry, for example) but I think culturally we have an understanding that it is necessary to keep them regulated so it is more difficult for the nutcases to get ahold of them.
I shot a gun for the first time in my life in November. It was.....almost fun. I can understand where gun enthusiasts are coming from, but I think I prefer to get my target practice jollies out via my favourite sumemr camp activity: archery. I don't know how Parks Canada would feel about me setting that up in my back yard though :P
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